Similar to the educational experiment in a preschool in Sweden we discussed in class, http://pinkcloudflower.hubpages.com/hub/What-does-gender-less-education-consist-in#a family in Canada is rising their child gender free.
1.Watch the news and identify the central issues each speaker addresses.
2. Make the transctiption of at least one minute of the video:
Lorena: 0.00-1.00 minute
Brenda: 1.00- 2.00 minute
Mario: 3.00-4.00 minute
J.J.: 4.00-5.00 minute
Natalia: 5.00-6.00 minute
Javier: 6.00-7.00 minute
Hey guys, I have some gender-issue videos for you... for entertainment this weekend :) And also to think about:
ReplyDelete- In what cases does our society make it okay/cool to be sexist (in the hugely popular Blurred Lines song)? (***WATCH THE PARODY VIDEO!!**)
Presenting... A FANTASTIC parody on the song "Blurred Lines", which is INCREDIBLY sexist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC1XtnLRLPM
- What kind of gender issues do Colombian men and women face? How does it compare to what is going on in Egypt?
A one minute depiction of the violence women face in Egypt, just for being women:
http://www.upworthy.com/men-you-may-never-be-in-a-womans-body-but-this-film-puts-you-there-for-65-seconds-3
Colombian women, as egyptians, are also victims of the harrasment and what makes this behaviour relentless and often practiced is the indulgence which is treated with so we need to say out loud that this chauvinistic behaviour must be stopped and we as a society have to speak up and proclaim that it is not going to be tolerated or disregarded. We need to raise our children about respect. We have to teach them to be respectful not only towards women but everyone.
DeletePoints of view about Gender Free
ReplyDeleteJayme Poisson a writer
She has a very neutral position; she does not show her point of view about it. She was just thinking about the impact of the articles she wrote about the topic. And she just gives the opinion of different people around the world; about they who think is very good and about they who see that as an experiment with bad effects to the children.
Cherly Kilodavis mom of the five years old boy/girl
She totally agrees with the concept of gender free. She just wants the best for her son. For that reason she supports this idea and she thinks we do not have to categorize and compere all the time, she believes that we must accept children for who they say they are and who they want to be.
Lisa Boesky a phycology
She agrees with the idea that we need to expose our boys to more famines things and our girls to more boy things. But also she considers the concept of gender free as an experiment. She thinks it is too much.
Dr. Brew Pinsky
He disagrees with the concept of gender free. He has a conservative vision about gender.
TRANSCRIPTION MINUTE 6 TO 7
ReplyDeleteLISA: The thing is gender is one part about our identity and an important part of our identity. But you also create a smart a good soccer player with a good personality, and I think they are making gender a bigger deal that is not necessary needs to be kind of like when you saying by not having another it makes it a bigger issue.
So I think they can really. I mean I’m a big believer that all parents including myself, we need to be exposing our boys to more famines things. And we should be doing the same thing with our girls all of us can work on that, but I think this is that is takes such a social stream is like a social experiment.
DR BREW: Cherly I want to give you last words because you have been staggering the so cry sometimes, I will call my expert here during next few days.
What do you talk us?
CHERLYL: Yeah I think you know there is a different between gender identity and gender expression and you are absolutely right. Dailson says: “I’m a princess and that is what is happening but this is a bigger question, I think you are right there is to be entire experiment...
TRANSCRIPTION 4.00-5.00 minute
ReplyDeleteDr. Drew Pinsky: Lisa, you are a child psychologist, and we have a family here that is sort of experimenting on a child. It’s a human studied or what? It is not?
Lisa Boesky: It does exactly right. I mean, we do have a culture obsessed. I mea, we have a culture that is obsessed with gender. I agree, and it’s good that this gender topic out on the ____ floor, but I do think that this choice is extreme raising your child without a gender because it’s really a social experiment, we don’t know if it’s gonna have a negative outcome and if it does, it’s gonna be the child that pays the prices of that. And think about the relentless teasing, the bullying. I’m a little concern that this parents, out there, their plan is gonna backfire and although his identity won’t be male or female, his identity could be the he/she boy or the X boy or the any might be asocial outcast and that might be worst than if he has a gender in the first place.
Dr. Drew Pinsky: _____. Most researchers point towards biology having very powerful affect. Correct?
Lisa Boesky: Well…
Dr. Drew Pinsky: very powerful!
Lisa Boesky: I would say powerful but not exclusive
Dr. Drew Pinsky: Not exclusive but powerful. I’m __________
Lisa Boesky: yeah!
Dr. Drew Pinsky: there is likelihood that the biology is going to express itself, and I know males. ahh, he is gonna be angry. He is gonna… you know what I mean. They are likely to get that kind of reaction from the child, potentially.
Opinions about the subject
Jaime’s opinion
She is only interested in constructing discussion where people can debate about gender issues, and she did so. Many people have responded to her article showing whether their approval o disapproval and that makes her feel great.
Cheryl’s opinion
This woman has a lot of knowledge about this subject due to her own experience of raising a boy who likes to dress as a girl. As result of her own experience, she considers that this is a encouraging and authentic example of a family who decided to challenge society to rethink gender from a more flexible and wider point of view.
Lisa’s opinion
She is concerned about the outcomes of this extreme social experiment. She expresses her worries about this case illustrating possible futures where this little gender-less boy is confused about his/her identity and hence she/he is bullied because of it.
Dr. Drew’s opinion
He believes that this idea sounds really great on paper as communism does, but when it comes to reality, it is a complete fiasco. He also is worried about the gender-less boy’s reaction when she/he finds out how his/her parents have been hiding gender from him/her.
1. Central issues
ReplyDeleteJaimie
Jamie has a very neutral position; she only talks about the article she wrote and the impact of this for the readers. She also talk about comments of some people, some of them think that Gender free is an experiment with harmful effects to the child. Jamie thinks that the topic creates an interesting discussion.
Cheryl
Cheryl is absolutely agreed with gender free; she said that she wants to make the best decisions for her son. She emphasized that there is a big difference between Gender identity and gender expression, she wonder, why do we need to categorized, why do we always need to compartmentalize, why we can't just accept children for who they say they are or who they want to be?
Lisa
Lisa thinks that our society is obsessed with gender and we need to change that, but she thinks this decision of raising children without gender is extreme, for her, is a social experiment, and children have to pay for their parents decisions, with things like bullying etc.
Dr. Drew
He does not agree with gender free 'cause, actually everybody has a biological gender, and we can't hide it.
2. Transcription!
What's Dr. Drew Pinsky at nine, HLN, weeknight on HLN.
Alright!, what's the first thing you do when a baby born?
First question we ask, in fact, we ask the question before babies born, we now move the bag/ pack to look the ultrasound, we ask is it a boy or a girl right.
It was a couple in Toronto that are creating a quite storm right now, because they are not saying, they literally not say: they raising their babies
Their babies ____ what they're calling gender free.
David Stocker and his wife Kathy W___ argue that they giving their child the freedom to choose who she or he, ____ wants to be
So what is good about this, what is bad about it.
Joining me to discusses is Jaimie Poisson she is a staff writer for the Toronto store and she profiled the family, also whit me is clinical psychologist and author Lisa Boesky
and Cheryl Kilodavis her son 5-years-old likes to use dresses, we visited with her family a couple weeks ago, she's authored a book called My princess boy.
Alright Jaimie what is your ____ _____ reported on this family?
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ReplyDeleteThe central issue of the presenter: what’s the first thing we do when the babies born and how is the raise of child giving them the freedom to choose their way to be.
ReplyDeleteJayme poisson
The position of this person is Create an article that rises a lot of questions about parenting and chilidring.
Cheryl kiodavis
She talks about the concern of parents to make the right decisions and she accept that her child express in a freeway to be authentic.
Lisa Boesky
she has point more psychological . she say s that the choice of raising the child without gender is extreme because we don’t know if it is going to have negative outcomes. The child could be outcast, gender is one part of out identity.
Transcription
-This is another example of courageous families saying; ok world we’re going to challenge you about gender expression, and we’re gonna challenge you by not using just adjectives to say strong boy or pretty girl, but we’re gonna challenge you to say actually authentic adjectives such as pretty child and strong child.
-And shirl this is surprise you, the people react so powerful to this. You get similar reaction with your son?
-absolutely. I mean this is…I think this is just as a mom we go through this kind of things. We try to make the right decisions and we’re doing the best for our children and this is another example. I’ve never met the family but my hope is that there’s an authenticity there just as our family, I mean my child dayson starting doing this when he was almost two years old, and he is very strong extrovert child so he’s sending messages by saying accept me for who I am and his family is challenging as to do the same, we need to get a place for acceptance.
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Everyone's main positions:
ReplyDeleteDr. Drew: He attacks genderless position by saying that they think gender is wrong, and that what people who bet on this alternative do is to make a social experiment on their children
Jaimie Poison: She picks no side,she just want to spred the news and initiate an interesting discussion about the topic because that's kind of her role as a news reporter
Cheryl Kilodavis: She thinks we should challenge society and allow our children choose whatever the want to be and to find their identies by themselves, but also makes a call to society to accept people for who they are
Lisa Boesky:she thinks that genderless education is extreme because is a social experiment that may not come well on children
1-2 minute trascription:
Dr D: Ok Jaimie what is your take having reported on this family
J. P.: well eh thank you for having me...ah...well...I, I'm a news reporter so when I went into the story I I thought that my own ____ is really let it tell itself, and and I hope that what we're able to do is create an article and a profile that raise a lot of questions for people about "childering?" and parenting and gender and sex and how those all come together when your raising your children. I I don't think the couple is pretending
Dr. D: a are your surprise? (silence) I'm asking you if your surprise by the stor... are you surprise by the the track of story is gotten , the amount of reaction people are having?
J. P.: yes, yes amm it's quite overwhelming..yeah, I thought it would be interesting, and I was hoping that it would provoked an interersting discussion...Is the 2nd most read story on our website that start on ___ 2 years and I've be getting phone calls from Austria, the UK, all over the US....and as soon as the story went up people started e-mailing me responses...
Personal comment:
Ok I have to say that most of the strong critics towards this kind of education are related to fact that they're social experiments, but they, and most people, forget that in some kind of way we all are social experiments and our society is full of the bad consequences of that... I'm not defending entirely this kind of education, I'm just saying that we should consider what goes wrong with our current system and take into account new alternatives to make it better.
5:00 to 6:00 minute:
ReplyDeleteThey ______ to get that kind of reaction from the child.
LB: well, that’s possible, anything just… having to keep a secret of something that what you are, so eventually he’s going to notice he has genderless .
DD: it’s not , it’s not the problem here in the story, is that behind that is the subtle message that gender itself is wrong, it’s something wrong with having a gender and that’s the part that concerns me, because even with no having a gender there’s a message . Cherly’s side was a different story, he has __________ express himself and they are giving him the freedom to do that. It’s supposed to say : gender is a bad thing and let’s hide it, ‘cause that is the subtle message . The statement of Kathy says… let me read it … I think she tries to adrees it… she says: “ raising a child with gender free” … she says : “ I’m not telling the gender of my precious baby , I’m saying to the world: please can you just let storm ___________ discover for him/herself what he or she wants to be?” on paper it sounds great, it really does, but communism sounds good on paper too -it’s all I’m saying.
Opinions:
Dr. Drew: he disagrees with genderless initiative, because he thinks that there is a subtle message behind this: “to have a gender is wrong.”
Jamie Poison: She doesn't show her point of view, she just wanted to spread the information about the initiative in order to motivate a discussion about this topic. She talks about the article she wrote and the letters she received in response to it.
Cheryl Kilodavis: she agrees with the genderless initiative. She talks from her own experience and tries to promote the idea of accepting children for who they are.
Lisa Boesky: she thinks that raising children without gender it’s a dangerous experiment, because the risk is taken by adults but children are the ones who have to pay the consequences.
TRANSCRIPTION 6:20 to 7:25 minute
ReplyDeleteLisa Boesky: So I think they can really, I mean, I’m a big believer that all parents including myself, we need to be exposing our boys to more female oriented things and we should be doing the same thing with our girls,
Dr. Drew Pinsky: For sure.
Lisa Boesky: all of us can work on that. But I think this takes it such an extreme is like a social experiment.
Dr. Drew Pinsky: Cheryl I wanna give you last words on this because you’ve been struggling this for quite sometimes and I would call my expert here having lived through this. What are your thoughts?
Cheryl: ohh Drew thank you. I think you know there is a difference between gender identity and gender expression and you’re absolutely right. Daison says: I’m a princess boy, he identifies boy and that’s what’s happening, but this is a bigger question, I think you’re right there is the entire experiment _____ to it but it is important for us to keep the conversation going, why do we need to categorize? Why do we always need to compartmentalize? Why can’t we just accept children for who they say they are? Who they want to be? and get to a place where really focusing our energies where it needs to be focused on things that are going on the world not on where our children are trying to be happy and be who they are.
Dr. Drew Pinsky: Thanks you Cheryl, thanks you Jamie, thank you Lisa.